Comments on: Token Entry #1 http://www.jamesgalvin.com/2008/01/23/token-entry-1/ Even a Stopped Clock Tells the Right Time Twice a Day Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:10:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: dahamstahttp://www.jamesgalvin.com/2008/01/23/token-entry-1/comment-page-1/#comment-1662 dahamsta Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:28:44 +0000 http://www.jamesgalvin.com/2008/01/23/token-entry-1/#comment-1662 Errah each to their own I guess. You won't catch me on there in the near future anyway.Great to see Most Humourous Post remaining a Cork institution, glad ye picked it up!adam Errah each to their own I guess. You won’t catch me on there in the near future anyway.

Great to see Most Humourous Post remaining a Cork institution, glad ye picked it up!

adam

]]> By: Jameshttp://www.jamesgalvin.com/2008/01/23/token-entry-1/comment-page-1/#comment-1661 James Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:16:06 +0000 http://www.jamesgalvin.com/2008/01/23/token-entry-1/#comment-1661 Very true, and twitter does have a much higher proportion of noise in the mix than anything else ("mick is going to brush his teeth soon"). Doesn't bother me though I do use IM and IRC so maybe I've grown accustomed to the noise.Ya we're sponsoring most humorous post. Hope someone nominated Ode to Twitter. Very true, and twitter does have a much higher proportion of noise in the mix than anything else (“mick is going to brush his teeth soon”). Doesn’t bother me though I do use IM and IRC so maybe I’ve grown accustomed to the noise.

Ya we’re sponsoring most humorous post. Hope someone nominated Ode to Twitter.

]]> By: dahamstahttp://www.jamesgalvin.com/2008/01/23/token-entry-1/comment-page-1/#comment-1660 dahamsta Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:24:23 +0000 http://www.jamesgalvin.com/2008/01/23/token-entry-1/#comment-1660 Bugger, sorry about the formatting. Forgot to close me tag, how unprofessional of me!adam /hangs head in shame Bugger, sorry about the formatting. Forgot to close me tag, how unprofessional of me!

adam /hangs head in shame

]]> By: dahamstahttp://www.jamesgalvin.com/2008/01/23/token-entry-1/comment-page-1/#comment-1659 dahamsta Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:23:46 +0000 http://www.jamesgalvin.com/2008/01/23/token-entry-1/#comment-1659 I came up with the idea, <a href="http://www.walterwynne.net/" rel="nofollow">Walter Wynne helped me with the design, and I wrote most of the copy. I'm pretty sure I haven't earned a single penny from it, but that wasn't really the point anyway. :)I understand the point of Twitter and I can see how it /could/ be useful to some people, but like the so-called blogosphere, it's generally an enormous amount o noise and very, very little signal. When forums have a better ratio, it's time to switch off.That's why I call my site "my site". It's not a blog, it just happens to use blogging software as a platform. If I had the time, I'd write my own. I'm a hermit too btw. Don't do the phone if I can possibly avoid it. Hate IM, no time for IRC. :)Did I see your company sponsoring Most Humourous Post in the Blog Awards or am I just being blond?adam I came up with the idea, Walter Wynne helped me with the design, and I wrote most of the copy. I’m pretty sure I haven’t earned a single penny from it, but that wasn’t really the point anyway. :)

I understand the point of Twitter and I can see how it /could/ be useful to some people, but like the so-called blogosphere, it’s generally an enormous amount o noise and very, very little signal. When forums have a better ratio, it’s time to switch off.

That’s why I call my site “my site”. It’s not a blog, it just happens to use blogging software as a platform. If I had the time, I’d write my own. I’m a hermit too btw. Don’t do the phone if I can possibly avoid it. Hate IM, no time for IRC. :)

Did I see your company sponsoring Most Humourous Post in the Blog Awards or am I just being blond?

adam

]]> By: Jameshttp://www.jamesgalvin.com/2008/01/23/token-entry-1/comment-page-1/#comment-1658 James Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:08:04 +0000 http://www.jamesgalvin.com/2008/01/23/token-entry-1/#comment-1658 Haha, did you make that sh1tter site? You were a notblogger like myself for so long I know exactly where you're coming from, but there came a point when I say "fuck it" and joined 'em. Twitter is unusual, because from the outside it appears much worse than it is. What the outsider sees is little one-off twitter posts from blogger types about social network portability and all that stuff, but it does not accurately represent the overall twitter buzz.I signed up in the summertime for some conference, but didn't feel like adding 50 friends, and I missed out on the benefit. I got sucked in because over Christmas Blacknight hosting was up and down, and Twitter was a good place to find out what was going on.18:11: (one guy) "is blacknight down" 18:12: (another guy) "My email is not working" 18:14: (one guy) "still down, appears to be just this shared server" 18:18: (another guy) Spoke to someone from the company and they are working on it now 18:20: (third guy) "The new Facebook theme for Ubuntu is so three years ago. Mark Zucklesworth has lost it."It's hard to explain... To the outside observer browsing through a Twitter log, it looks like there is nothing but absolute drivel. Looking back on what I've written it appears this way too, but the same could be said if you recorded conversation in the pub or something. Most of the bits of conversation back and forth, when taken in isolation are really dumb or pointless. But the stupid little bits and pieces add up to form a real conversation, kind of like an IRC log.While Jaiku is like a distributed discussion forum, Twitter is more akin to a distributed IRC channel. That's the other great aspect - there are other people involved in the conversation who's replies you might not even see. If you see the replies, you might add/follow the person, and thus the pool of participants expands.I'm a bit of a hermit, and I don't care about meeting new people, but at my most cynical I would regard new people "in my network" as a new source of information. One extra person to tell me when Blacknight is down. One extra Cork person to break the news that Ronan O'Gara has just been injured. One extra American Debian user to point out a critical security flaw. Of course it is more than just a source of information, I don't talk to my offline friends simply to gather information, but I'm not going to hark on about any sentimental reasons here because that would be going too far. It's not like I <i>love</i> twitter or anything... Haha, did you make that sh1tter site? You were a notblogger like myself for so long I know exactly where you’re coming from, but there came a point when I say “fuck it” and joined ‘em. Twitter is unusual, because from the outside it appears much worse than it is. What the outsider sees is little one-off twitter posts from blogger types about social network portability and all that stuff, but it does not accurately represent the overall twitter buzz.

I signed up in the summertime for some conference, but didn’t feel like adding 50 friends, and I missed out on the benefit. I got sucked in because over Christmas Blacknight hosting was up and down, and Twitter was a good place to find out what was going on.

18:11: (one guy) “is blacknight down”
18:12: (another guy) “My email is not working”
18:14: (one guy) “still down, appears to be just this shared server”
18:18: (another guy) Spoke to someone from the company and they are working on it now
18:20: (third guy) “The new Facebook theme for Ubuntu is so three years ago. Mark Zucklesworth has lost it.”

It’s hard to explain… To the outside observer browsing through a Twitter log, it looks like there is nothing but absolute drivel. Looking back on what I’ve written it appears this way too, but the same could be said if you recorded conversation in the pub or something. Most of the bits of conversation back and forth, when taken in isolation are really dumb or pointless. But the stupid little bits and pieces add up to form a real conversation, kind of like an IRC log.

While Jaiku is like a distributed discussion forum, Twitter is more akin to a distributed IRC channel. That’s the other great aspect – there are other people involved in the conversation who’s replies you might not even see. If you see the replies, you might add/follow the person, and thus the pool of participants expands.

I’m a bit of a hermit, and I don’t care about meeting new people, but at my most cynical I would regard new people “in my network” as a new source of information. One extra person to tell me when Blacknight is down. One extra Cork person to break the news that Ronan O’Gara has just been injured. One extra American Debian user to point out a critical security flaw. Of course it is more than just a source of information, I don’t talk to my offline friends simply to gather information, but I’m not going to hark on about any sentimental reasons here because that would be going too far. It’s not like I love twitter or anything…

]]> By: dahamstahttp://www.jamesgalvin.com/2008/01/23/token-entry-1/comment-page-1/#comment-1657 dahamsta Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:39:21 +0000 http://www.jamesgalvin.com/2008/01/23/token-entry-1/#comment-1657 My <a href="http://sh1tter.com/" rel="nofollow">ode to Twitter</a> is still up, and I still feel the same way. A waste of space for wasters of space. Sorry James.I hate the term "unconference" too.Perhaps I'm getting old. Or perhaps I'm just wise... :)adam My ode to Twitter is still up, and I still feel the same way. A waste of space for wasters of space. Sorry James.

I hate the term “unconference” too.

Perhaps I’m getting old. Or perhaps I’m just wise… :)

adam

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